Interviews with Keith Nunn and Lungile Bam. Nunn was a visual arts student (part-time) at the Community Arts Project (1980 - 1993). Bam was a visual arts student and educator (both full-time) at the Community Arts Project (circa 1987-1997). The interviews were conducted by Heidi Bolton and commissioned by Mario Pissarra for Community Arts Project 'Histories of CAP' project.