Interviews with Nomakitha Bavuma and Vuyile Voyiya. Bavuma was a theatre student (full-time) at the Community Arts Project (late 1980s). Voyiya was a visual arts student (full-time) and child arts educator (part-time) at the Community Arts Project (1985-1993) The interviews were conducted by Heidi Bolton and commissioned by Mario Pissarra for Community Arts Project 'Histories of CAP' project.